The Tucker Carlson Show

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The promise is, you know, the system is going to locate the smartest people in the 50 states, funnel them through a certain number of approved schools, and then into a certain number of approved businesses or government, and we're going to get good governance and a good country as a result. And in fact, the opposite has happened. The system is designed to exclude Rather than exclude Christians, people with an independent cast of mind, creativity, awakened spirit, all of them, genius, all of them are excluded in favor of hyper-aggressive, selfish, small-minded, cruel, compliant people. 01:22 And that's how you wind up with a system where Ben Shapiro gets into Harvard. Like how could Ben Shapiro, I'm just like on IQ points, it's not possible. Sorry for the long preamble, but there's a reason, and I want viewers to understand why I was so anxious to do this interview. 01:37 You live on a farm in South Dakota. 01:40 You are a potter and a welder, and I think you're one of the best artists I've met personally. I think you have a kind of genius to what you do in an aesthetic sense that's lacking in our leadership, and I don't think a government populated by people who cared about beauty would blow up girls' schools. Ou allow its population to die of drug odise. So I think it really, really matters. 02:03 The love of beauty really matters. And you have it. So anyway, that's why I'm doing this interview. And there's a bigger reason. And I hope a lot of people watch it. 02:14 Tell us who you are, where you're from, how you live. 02:18 Meu nome é Jess Elifson, eu sou uma 3-dimensional artista. Eu não... Quando eu principalmente trabalho em cerâmica, um... All 3-dimensional art. Eu posso trabalhar com qualquer medium e criar a beleza com isso. E isso realmente é o objetivo do que eu tento fazer, para fazer a beleza de coisas... Out do material que não um pensado. É por isso que eu amo cerâmica. Eu posso criar... 02:48 beautiful long-lasting enduring pieces of functional art that people can appreciate from just nothing more than raw elements off the periodic table And it requires absolutely zero input or assistance from any other human on this planet. 03:07 It is truly my own skills, my own mind, and my own abilities put down for eternity. Ceramics are what marks every civilization is marked by its ceramics. And when you see what modern art puts out and just the horrendous, Disgusting, lack of aesthetics, lack of skill, lack of thought in modern art. 03:38 It has disgusted me since high school art classes. I got in trouble for calling bullshit on modern art. They were like, this is in the Guggenheim. I was like, why? Because that's fucking horrendous. I wouldn't put that in my toilet. 03:58 You think that this dude is skilled? People just drape plastic over shit? Or duct tape a banana to a wall? There's no possible way, if you're being intellectually honest with me, that you have any appreciation for this shit. 04:15 So, before I want to understand what the purpose of it is, I mean, clearly this didn't arise organically, the movement which began with Dada 100 years ago and then flowered into all kinds of different movements, but basically modern and postmodern art. 04:31 I've heard it was a CIA op. 04:34 Literally, like with Jackson Pollock, who just slapped paint on a canvas, and it was just trash, and there's no thought or interesting things beyond it. 04:47 I've heard that the CIA started just paying retarded amounts of money for his paintings just to fuck with Russia. 04:55 Because they were like, we'll do this and we'll make this the art. And like when you look at Russian art and Russian classical architecture, which is like how our architecture used to be, right? Yes. Like beauty, symmetry, skill. 05:10 Like they wanted to confuse them. And for what reason? I mean, that's their admitted goal. 05:17 E aí você pergunta, é isso mesmo o seu objetivo? Ou eles estão tentando destruir a sociedade? Porque isso foi a verdadeira e-effect, certo? 05:25 Foi a verdadeira e-effect. Então, eu quero colocar duas imagens na tela para contrastar o que eu acho que art é, e tem sempre sido, e também deve ser, com o que art tem sido, e tem um totalmente diferente. O primeiro é a apresentação de entender o que a gente é, que é, em fato, um ataque a gente. E essa é a presidência de Barack Obama, que... I think I have read cost approaching a billion dollars to construct. It's in Chicago. 05:56 Here it is. We're putting it on the screen now. So what do you make of that? Is that beautiful? 06:01 The Eye of Mordor? No. It is the absolute opposition to aesthetics and beauty. There's no symmetry to that. Symmetry is the basis of beauty. That's what your eye immediately is drawn to. You don't have to be told what's beautiful. You don't have to be told when a woman is beautiful. And they teach you that In early art school, but then somehow it gets lost in the upper levels. 06:35 You know, draw a line down the middle, perspective, symmetry, balance, aesthetics. 06:39 So symmetry is balance, right? Yes. So the human body is... Draw a line, yeah. And you can feel it through, you know, just by touch. Você vê que, de sua paleta, de sua navel, de sua toes, você é symmetrical. Os dois lados, os dois lados, os dois lados, os dois lados, os dois lados, os dois lados. E isso é verdade em natureza, isso é verdade em plantas, isso é verdade em outros animais. E então, isso é um organico facto. 07:03 Symmetry é a beleza. O Fibonacci Spiral, sim. O Golden Ratio, o Golden Means, o Sacred Geometry. 07:11 The whole way everything was built and created before, you know, what the industrial revolution and the degradation of our own culture. Yes. 07:26 And so if something is asymmetrical by definition, it cannot be beautiful or it's an assault on the senses. 07:33 Yeah. 07:34 Right. 07:34 Yeah. 07:35 Então, você olha a essa construção e você tem que perguntar, o que é o que é? E quando você tem R$800 milhões para construir algo, não é um projeto de haphazardos, há um design, literalmente um design, mas também um concepção de design, como o que você está tentando fazer com essa construção? 07:48 I mean, that amount of money, it's got to be money laundering, right? It didn't cost $2 million to build. There's no way. Like, you were just slapping together shit. You didn't cut shit. You didn't measure anything. You were just like, hey, look at that piece of metal I found in the scrap pile. Weld that one to this one. You know, is there even windows in the thing? Right. Like, there's no way. It could be billions of dollars. It's just not possible. 08:12 And yet the number of credentialed members of our ruling class who will gaze upon that building and, you know, give lectures about how it's beauty and it challenges us to, excuse me, understand this or that, or they'll justify it as art when every person looking at it knows that it's grotesque, it's offensive. 08:34 So what's the purpose of that? 08:37 É isso, não é? É, é. 08:38 Para degrar a sociedade, para destruir a família, para destruir a ideia de beleza, para tirar isso de sua vida. Nós precisamos de beleza em nossas vidas e quando nós não temos que, e quando você está em sua surroundings, are so degraded it lowers your ability to think and enjoy and find your own happiness yes in your in your life yes we are all drawn to beauty look at the classical art and the greek sculptures of the ideal human form we should be worshiping those things not Dicas on chicks. 09:27 Right. Which itself is an assault on not just the natural order, but aesthetics. 09:31 What in this society today isn't an assault on humanity? Yes. It's become so blatant and obvious that they hate us. And they want to destroy our lives and make us miserable and beat us down and shove horribly, ugly, disgusting music and architecture. There is nothing mainstream in this world that has any beauty in it. 10:02 It is disgusting. Even the thoughts and policies of this government are disgusting. 10:10 the music that they put out, which is also purposely to degrade our society. There has been nothing created mainstream in this world since I was born that should be taken in by human senses. It is... I'm disgusted by it all. I've been disgusted by it all forever. 10:35 Most people don't like thinking about life insurance. It's one of those topics you tend to kind of put off. But if you're married, you've got kids, you've got people who depend on you, you probably should think about what would happen if you weren't around. And that's why we've partnered with Ethos. They've made getting life insurance super easy. You can do the whole thing online. You don't have to sit down with an agent or go through a medical exam. You get a quote in seconds, apply in just a few minutes, and in some cases you get coverage the same day. You just answer a couple of simple health questions. 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Investing has risks like the loss of principal. 12:22 So I think what sets you apart is that you take it seriously because you understand its importance. I'm with you 100%. These are not boutique concerns. These are not like some eccentric fixation that you have. This is at the heart of what it means to be human and to continue your civilization and build one worth having. So I want to contrast the Obama Presidential Library, which is a pretty easy shot, by the way. I almost feel bad putting that up there. I mean, because as you said, ugliness, intentional ugliness, asymmetrical design, assaults on us are everywhere. 12:57 I mean, from the packaging and the products we buy at the supermarket to the design of fast food restaurants and big box stores, you know, it's all around, it's omnipresent. But this is just a really obvious example. I want to contrast that with a video that I saw, I want to play 15 or 20 seconds of it, of art that you were creating, which we have been trained to dismiss as not art, as utilitarian art, Esse é vídeo. Esse foi o meu primeiro experiência do seu trabalho. 13:29 E a primeira vez que eu ouviu seu nome, alguém me enviou esse vídeo. 13:33 E uma pessoa que eu admiro e acredito, e disse que isso é incrível. Esse é você. Então, o que isso é? É você building a woodstove. Out of o que? 13:42 Out of excavador buckets. 13:45 E não é isso que é uma maneira de repurposar algo que já já tinha a utilitaria na vida, mas para dar um novo propósito e criar algo que não é muito bonito, mas funcional. Sim, útil. E faz um melhor trabalho do que o que faz do que o que faz do que o que faz do que o que faz do que o que faz hoje. E é permanência. É permanência. 14:16 É não só usar isso por um pouco de anos e colocar isso. 14:24 What I like about it is that these are generational. These are pieces of functional art that could heat your home for generations. 14:34 It's a Roman aqueduct. It's the Acropolis. It's still there. 14:37 There is no greater civilization than the Roman Republic and the things they built and the architecture. 14:47 Our Republic is framed on theirs. Yes. Our society was thought up to be o que o romans tinha que oferecer, então com a Bill de Rights adicionado, foi uma possível shota da Golden Age. E tem sido perverte, e destruído, e degradado, e taken advantage de. 15:11 Então, sem dúvida, aqui é você, creating art de um excavador bucket. Olha. 15:20 This one's 1,500 pounds. Not every bucket can be a stove. I've built them up to 60 inches. The last one I built before this one was like almost, it was over 6,000 pounds when it was done. The color on this, this is only from fucking, what, 8 hours, 10 hours of firing on it. The color is going to soak all the way up and through this thing. After you've been using this thing for about a month straight, The color soaks all the way through it. The whole thing will get patinaed, and that's what fucking seals it. You can't put anything on the outside of it. 15:53 I did two loads of wood, and they hit 500, 600 degrees on this thing. And of course, this flat spot up top is for cooking, right? You build these out, so that's a cooking plate. That hit 400 degrees while I was firing it, just on that little thing. You fry yourself some fucking bacon. 16:09 So, um... I guess you either find that beautiful or you don't. I don't send videos to people. I don't watch videos. I don't care for video. I sent that to many people. I showed my wife that. Probably the only video I've ever showed my wife. um and she agreed that it was beautiful and that it also as you said this is this is an object that has use that that warms the home and anyone of course there's an assault on wood stoves because a wood stove is inherently beautiful uh so now they're banned but um anyone who lives at the wood stove can tell you there's no more uplifting way joyful way to heat your home than a wood stove but um we have nothing in this world without fire 16:49 Fire is the basis of human ingenuity. It is the first tool we created. 16:57 It cooks our food. It warms our homes. 17:02 Human civilization doesn't exist without fire. It creates energy. 17:07 There you go. Steam power generators. 17:09 Exactly. Which is where we get our electricity, overwhelmingly, even now. So give us some background on you. So you live in Soho in New York, over your gallery. Tell us where you're from. 17:23 I live on my family farm in South Dakota, about 20 miles east of Sioux Falls, not far enough from civilization. 17:34 And there's a thriving conceptual art community there? 17:37 Yeah, no, South Dakota does not like me. 17:40 Why? 17:44 Porque eles são mainstream. 17:48 É 10 anos atrás do resto do mundo. Eles são inseguros, como um lugar de rurais, e eles seekam mainstream acceptos, e então eles falam para os mais mentais. 17:58 Sioux Falls wants to be all of the other biggest shitty cities and is addicted to bringing in the shittiest ideas from every other shitty city. Why don't we have African homeless here? Where's our drug problem? We need that. They are super concerned about it. They feel left out. There's not enough stabbings and shootings and drug addictions. 18:19 As someone who lives in a rural area, I'm very familiar with the mindset. Tell me about the farm. It's a family farm. 18:27 Sim, minha família came from Sweden, through Ellis Island, got an ox and a wagon, and came directly to where I now live in 1876. Really? Same piece of ground? Same piece of ground. My studio is, what my studio is now is the first homestead house that they built in 1891. 18:52 Amazing. Yeah. 18:55 Um, and your family's been there continuously the whole time? Yes. 18:58 Yes. Always, always generations living there. Never just one, never just two, usually three. I grew up with my grandfather on the farm and my uncle also living there as well. And you still have three generations there now? Yes, we do. Yeah. On the same farm? On the same farm. I live 150 yards from my parents. 19:20 Yeah. I get to see my dad every day. We work together. 19:24 Who built your house? 19:26 I built my house. 19:27 Like physically built it? 19:28 Physically built it. 19:30 Yes. Yep. 19:32 What kind of farm is it? 19:34 Primarily agriculture. It's crossed many different things over the century and a half. I'm trying to bring it back to incorporate grass-fed natural livestock. I want to take it back to self-sufficient. I had to interview my grandfather when I was in middle school to talk about the Great Depression. 20:01 And I was like... You know, what was the Great Depression like? Like, how did your life change? And he was like, what the fuck are you talking about? He's like, we didn't even know there was a depression. Like, it was the same shit. It was the same thing from the day before. And it was the same thing for the 10 years after. Like, what do you mean? There was, what Great Depression? 20:22 Like, we were dirt poor. We were self-sufficient. 20:26 And it was my grandfather... who said to me, if you want nice things, you better learn to build them yourselves because we don't have any money. 20:38 And he said that to my dad and he said that to me and it stuck with both of us. 20:45 My dad built his own house. 20:48 My dad taught me how to restore vehicles. 20:53 I can build cars from the ground up the best cars ever built the old Ford 60s 70s there again no car has been built since 1979 that's worth the money you pay for it yeah what's in your studio a wood stove I bet yeah yeah what else I write all the greatest things I've ever learned on the walls around me. Pieces of history, some native pottery artifacts that I've collected from around the world. 21:29 I love history. 21:31 I think without history, you can't understand where you need to go. 21:39 You can't understand where we've been. But moreover, you can see the mistakes of the past. Everyone has something to teach us, and the most important lesson is what not to do. Exactly. And if you learn only what not to do... I said that to my daughter the other day. I was like... You know, I don't, I, I, I, my daughter was born when I was 23 years old. Me and my wife, they was not planned, you know, but it, it bonded us together. 22:11 And all's I knew was what not to do from how I grew up. 22:17 What did you know not to do? 22:20 Not ignore your kids that even five minutes of not paying attention can cost lives. 22:30 No one is guaranteed another day on this earth. That's right. And we can all leave at any moment. So live your life to the fullest. Use every moment. 22:44 And just It's not hard to love your child and just be supportive. All you have to think is, how would I want to be talked to in this moment? What would I need? What would I have liked to have heard? 23:02 E não há guidance em este mundo anymore. 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Yes. 25:06 No lie, probably the best marriage advice I've ever gotten is I've heard from you of things that never even occurred to me that seem so simple about when your wife says to you, where would you like to eat? And it was so eloquent the way you explained it. Just, oh, I'd like to go to Chinese. Like, let's go to Chinese. Oh, I hate Chinese. Yes, Chinese sucks. Como para ser essa support? Eu não sei onde você ganha esses... 25:37 Ela quer que você faça a decisão. Ela não quer que seja bulldozed, ou yelled at, ou ordered around. Men hate that. Mas ela quer que você faça a decisão. E então, muito often, a decisão que você faça é sua escolha repetida para ela em forma de uma decisão. E se você não faz isso, ela vai se sentir abandonado, unprotected. Ela vai se sentir que você não está interessado em ela. Menos são diferentes de men, muito diferente. Sim, mas nós precisamos de um outro. 100% eu não poderia viver um dia sem meu filho. Eu não poderia viver um dia sem meu filho, que é por isso. 26:06 Eu não poderia ser a pessoa que eu sou sem meu filho. 26:08 Claro que não, claro que não. Mas a mentira que nós temos sido told sobre a forma que os sexos sejam along, a mentira é que eles são idênticos. Eles não podem ser mais diferentes. Eles não podem ser mais diferentes. 26:22 Estimate the differences between races and dramatically underestimate the difference between sexes. Men and women are nothing alike. 26:29 And if you don't know that, then, and you treat your wife like your buddy, you're going to have a very unhappy wife. Or you're going to have a very short marriage. Very short marriage. And you will never know why. You know, we just weren't compatible. No, you just didn't understand the differences between men and women. And she does not want to be bossed around or ordered around or yelled at. My gosh, never yell at your wife ever. But she wants to be protected and provided for. And there's no shame in that. That's your duty. So anyway, so let's tell me you have a kiln in your shop. 27:02 A wood-fired kiln. What's a wood-fired kiln? 27:05 I have a wood-fired kiln, and it's an anagama-style kiln that I kind of modified for my use just from experience. It's a high-fire ceramics kiln that burns wood. I also have a six-burner downdraft LP kiln as well. 27:23 So a wood-fired kiln, where'd you get it? Where'd you buy that? 27:27 Yeah, yeah. No, that's not something you can buy. You have to build that. Yeah. 27:32 How big a project is that? 27:34 Six months of eight, ten-hour days. To build a kiln? 5,000 bricks. You're talking math and geometry, cantonary arches, understandings of architecture, right? 27:49 Why? Why is it not just a hotbox? 27:54 2,350 degrees isn't fucking around, Tucker. 27:59 Você só stack a lote de wood e fica a 2,350 degrees, no? 28:02 No, você pode burn a pile de wood on the ground all week long e nunca vai ficar hotter than 1,376 degrees. That é a pique temp burning de wood. Just like paper has an ignition point of like, what, 900? Yes. Yeah, so it is the shape of the kiln, the size of the chimney, the size of the firebox. To create the natural draft and then the stored energy principles of thermodynamics to achieve temperatures over 2000 degrees. 28:34 It is incredibly complex. And I've seen more people fail at it than succeed. 28:41 So... 28:42 Basically, the design, the cantonary arches that you referred to, the design of the architecture of the kiln increases the temperature of the fire. 28:54 Yes, yes. The way it works is your firebox sits at the front, your firing chamber is in between that, your chimney is at the back, your chimney is what is going to create that draft. Mas há coisas para entender, como a expansão do ar por volume, como se é feita. Então, se o ar que vem em 2,000ºC aumenta em volume por 4 vezes o tamanho do ar, That math equation has to be done to have enough space at the back to allow that to leave. 29:29 But if it's too big, it will not create draft. These are not principles or ideas that you can hunt and peck around at or just happen to fucking build it right. There is complex math involved in building a kiln. These are not things that you're just like, oh, I just want to burn some pots and get them hot. E então, que é uma das coisas que eu tenho sempre sido amazes, porque há há-fire pots de 8,000 B.C. 30:01 Bom, como que isso pode ser? Sim, que é uma ótima pergunta, porque isso é suposto que só seja hunter-gatherers, mas para mesmo criar um brick... 30:14 que é capaz de comandar temperaturas de 2,000ºC, requer o que eu chamo de referência como indústria, e um entendimento de química. 30:24 Então, isso requerce diferentes bruxos de, por exemplo, os bruxos que você construiu a casa de, ou mesmo os bruxos em sua filha. 30:30 Oh, sim, eu poderia ter filha de filha bruxos, colocar eles em minha filha, e eles viram como pudelos, sim. Oh, realmente? Oh, sim. E que acontece, porque quando você vai construir a filha, não... 30:44 . . . . 31:05 Então, você está falando de uma máquina ou uma device made by human hands que é tão complexo que eu estou tendo dificuldade de entender. Most people do. Não sei exatamente o que você está falando, mas você está dizendo que isso existia e nós sabemos por um fato que existia em 8,000 B.C.? 31:26 That's correct. That's the oldest high-fire pot that has ever been found. que é uma fruta vitrificada. O que mais mais mais mais mais mais mais mais mais mais mais mais mais mais mais mais mais mais A porcelain commercial coffee cup, that's not fully vitrified. That is not high-fire ceramics. That is what is called low-fire ceramics because the amount of energy and input to get to high-fire ceramics is almost double what it took to get that cup to probably 1,750, 1,800 degrees. 31:59 Are we sure? Because if you think about it, I mean, there were still glaciers melting 8,000 years ago, literally. Yeah. There were glaciers melting. 32:07 Yeah. 32:08 The Roman Empire fell in the 5th century AD. So that's 8,000 years, more than 8,000 years before the fall of Rome. Yeah. 32:18 And there were civilizations capable of producing what you just described? 32:24 That understood thermodynamics, the Cantonary Arch, because there is no other way to encapsulate an area like that. It requires the knowledge of an arch or a dome. 32:37 There's no other way to get it done. 32:39 And you need materials capable of withstanding 2000 degree heat. You got it. And we know that this happened because we have the product of it. 32:49 And they span many, many centuries and millennia. It's not like, oh, there's one pot from 8000 BC and then there's not another one until like the Mycenaeans. Like, no, like they find them all scattered out and in between. 33:05 Eating right is pretty important, but it's hard if you live here. About half of the American diet is ultra-processed foods, and that hurts you. 33:14 Fake food harms your body, your mind, and especially your liver. So people think that feeling sluggish and foggy and bloated is just what it is to be older, but that's not true. 33:24 Eating crap makes you feel that way. Well, our friends at Dose have a solution. It's called Dose for Your Liver. 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When I was... 34:36 After I graduated college with a BFA, everybody, you gotta go get a master's degree in art. Like, you need a master's. And I was like, really? Okay. And I remember going down to Arizona and I was looking at their ceramics program and E não me sentia muito impressionante. E eles me sentiam para olhar para mim, tipo, nós temos um wood kiln. Eu sempre me senti super into wood kilns, porque isso é antiga tecnologia. Como um wood kiln que eu tenho, você pode pegar um time machine, pegar um roame, walk ele em lá, você não tem que dizer ele, ele pode apenas rodar a kiln. 35:12 A potter sabe. A potter sabe. A potter sabe. A potter sabe. A potter sabe. A potter sabe. A potter sabe. A potter sabe. A potter sabe. A potter sabe. A potter sabe. A potter sabe. Any mechanic can tune any engine, certo? 35:23 E então eu olhava e olhava e olhava e olhava e olhava e olhava e olhava e olhava e olhava e olhava e olhava e olhava e olhava e olhava e olhava e olhava e olhava e olhava e olhava e olhava e olhava e olhava e olhava e olhava e olhava e olhava e olhava e olhava e olhava e olhava Like, what are you doing here? 35:51 And it's just like, why did you even go to this effort if you didn't understand the project in front of you and you were just gonna wing it? 36:00 Like, I mean, even then, we had the internet. There's books. You don't read? Like, you did no research? What is this? And you want to fucking teach me something? I was like, no, I think not. I think not. I'm very unimpressed. 36:14 So the kill never worked? I doubt it. 36:16 No, no, it couldn't get to town. 36:19 How long does it take, so you take, you throw pots, whatever they are, cups, vases, plates, whatever, objects out of clay, you dry them, and that can take months or years, right? 36:32 Yeah, you can, I've had dry work sitting on the shelf for over a year, yeah. 36:38 And then you fire it to change its essential composition, to push the molecules closer together, and to create a kind of stone, actually. 36:47 Sim, que é isso. 37:06 There are many different things. You can have porcelain, stoneware, and the things you can do to it to alter it. No, no, no. 37:15 Let me just correct you, Jess. I have seen videos on the internet where you just take a shovel and dig into a riverbank and you get clay. 37:21 Yeah, that shit does not work. Yeah, and it never has. It never has. Even the Romans altered their clay body with other feldspars. It has to have the right elasticity so you can even throw it, so that it can hold itself together. Its molecules have to be bound together in a proper way that create a structure that can hold and create a vessel. 37:42 No. So clay itself is the product of a recipe. It's a product of basically backyard chemistry. 37:48 Yes. There are some naturally occurring clay bodies that can make low fire ceramics. That is what you see from a lot of early Native American cultures. But those vessels cannot hold water. If you are to take naturally occurring clay bodies above like 50, they just melt into a puddle. They do not have the proper refractory elements inside of them to stand up to that kind of heat. 38:18 So they just melt into a puddle. So they can have low fire pottery that can store grain and things. They are still useful 100%. 38:26 They say the first pot was created by hunter-gatherers who recognized that clay did dry out and become hard and they packed it inside their reed baskets and they think that it got left next to a fire and lit on fire and burned and they were like, hey, look at this nice hard vessel that I got left and you worked it out from there. 38:48 Mas como a amfora, a greek amfora, que foram usadas para transportar wine e olive oil, que nós encontramos em shipwrecks na Aegean ou na Med, os foram high-fired porque estavam holding liquidos. Bingo. 39:01 Interesting, interesting. Então, quando você usou a wood kiln para fire a pots que você trouxe, como longa does a process take? 39:10 Anywhere de 72 a 96 horas. 39:15 Continuously? Continuously. At the first part, you're maybe throwing wood in every 5, 7, 10 minutes. Minutes? Yes. It is very controlled. Like I said, as you're going through this process, the elements that you made the clay out of are bonding. They are creating new elements. There are quartz inversions. 39:38 Mas as moléculas estão movendo às vezes, porque você está tentando compactar essas coisas. Então, você tem que soak em 200, 400, 1000. Algumas pessoas gostam de 1,400 a pouco. E você não pode ir em temperatura mais de 100 graus em uma hora, ou você vai romper tudo. Moleculas vão movendo rápido em outra parte do pot. E... 40:03 Então, se você tem três ou quatro dias de contínuos de trabalho, quando você dorme? Você não. 40:09 Não se você quiser fazer isso certo. 40:11 Você não dorme para três ou quatro dias para apenas fazer um dia de fogo de fogo de fogo de fogo de fogo de fogo de fogo de fogo de fogo de fogo. 40:28 E se isso fica f***ed up, você não está pagando, eu não acho que você vai ter um hard time não dormindo. 40:35 Eu não, enfim. Isso é incrível. 40:38 Então, como muito wood do você burn durante o curso de um firing? 40:42 6, 8, 10 cords. In one firing? In one firing. Enough wood to heat your home for an entire winter. 40:50 In one firing? In one fire. By the time you're over 1700 degrees, you're throwing wood in this thing literally nonstop. You're throwing some wood in, you're kind of watching what happens in the kiln, and then you're walking over to the pile to pick your next piece. And it's not just like, oh, I'm going to grab whatever wood I want. 41:11 You're balancing fuel, air, and the ports of the kiln. You're balancing the air in, you're controlling the back pressure out because what creates the colors is the reduction atmosphere. You're flooding the interior atmosphere of the kiln with so much fuel that any oxygen that enters the kiln is immediately used for combustion, thus expanding the flame all the way out the chimney. And sucking the oxygen from the surface of the pots, affecting the trace elements of metals that you've mixed into other substances that create the glazes, that create the colors on the pottery. 41:51 So, I mean, even there, when you see like Corinthian pottery from, you know, 1000 BC... 42:01 Those dudes understood chemistry, elements, periodic tables, what things do what. And you're not just like, oh, here's some red element. I'm going to put that on there and it's going to make red. It doesn't work that way. It doesn't work that way. 42:21 Copper carbonate is not green, right? It's not? No, no, it's not. It's a kind of a pale purple color in powdered form. 42:33 And only when exposed to these temperatures does it become green. 42:37 Temperatures and the removal of the oxygen. 42:41 Most people are familiar with a torch hitting a piece of metal and the metal turning color. The metal turns blues and purples and things like that. And if you take that piece of metal and quickly dunk it in water, you can freeze those colors onto the metal. The metal didn't turn color because it got hot. It turned color because the flame removed the oxygen from the surface of that metal. 43:06 So these were concepts that were precisely understood in 8000 BC. 43:13 That is what the pottery would tell us, correct? 43:20 So what does that tell us about the nature of technology and civilizations? It obviously puts a lie to the linear understanding of history, that history is a kind of inexorable progression toward progress. 43:33 Yeah, right. 43:33 The word progression is actually a misleading term because it means it's always getting better or more sophisticated or more enlightened, and that's obviously fake. 43:44 I don't understand how any historian or anybody in the modern culture can look at the Roman Empire, who had running water, toilets, and showers. 43:57 Where did those things go? If this is just a slowly progression, then what was the Middle Ages? Why were people shitting in ditches? No, things fall apart very quickly, repeatedly, and often. 44:12 I think we've lost the technology of flushing toilets like three times in the last 2,000 years. 44:21 That's kind of a central technology. 44:23 Yeah. 44:24 That's not an esoteric technology. It's not like, how do we get back to the moon? No one can remember. Oh, we destroyed the blueprints for that. Okay. 44:33 But this is like a basic, like a toilet is obviously a necessity of life. 44:39 So if you forget how to build a flush toilet three times in the last 2,000 years, like... Clean water. 44:46 Like, look at how clean water was forgotten about, what, up until like the late 1800s? 44:57 com a final ending da typhus outbreak em New York, quando eles figured out, oh, dude, no, pessoas estão shitting em isso, assim, que é por isso que você está allando, e é assim, wow, thank you, Captain Obvious, mas, yeah, pessoas são tão fucking stupid. 45:15 We're into gold. We've been into gold for a long time. That turned out to be pretty smart, not to brag or anything. We've told you a lot about gold, how it's outperformed the S&P 500 over the past 25 years. That's true. How the central banks around the world have been buying it at record levels as they diversify away from U.S. debt. That's all true. 45:36 But there's another reason to consider buying physical gold, actual gold. And that reason, of course, is privacy. Your bank and credit card company record every transaction. 45:47 Cryptocurrency, whatever its benefits, leaves a permanent public record. 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Explore our collection at battalionmetals.com slash Tucker. 46:52 E eu acho que a razão que nós sabemos que eles são estúpidos é porque eles discountem a possibilidade de que eles nunca esqueçam esse tecnologia. E eles imaginam que o que eles estão fazendo agora vai sempre ser feito e depois de futura gerações. Mas que não é a história que nós temos sido handedado por história. É a mesma coisa. 47:08 Sim, mas não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, não, 47:39 What's the process by which a civilization forgets the basics? 47:45 A million dollar question. Not teaching your kids, I suppose. Yes. The destruction of the family, the loss... 47:55 of wanting something better for your offspring. Yes. And probably getting it wrong. I think so many people try to give their kids what they never had rather than what you should do, which is teach them what you wish you knew. Yes. That's the basis to raising great men and women. 48:20 Don't give them nothing except knowledge. Teach them the things that you wish you had known long before you had to learn them and especially the hard lessons. 48:31 Like what? 48:31 The value of life and how fragile it is and how easy it can be taken from you and how one simple mistake can destroy your entire future and take your whole life from you. 48:57 Não é algo que as pessoas apreciam. No. 49:02 Eu vi aqui, eu vi uma motocicleta tipped-over com muita blood na rua. 49:11 E isso é algo que eu discussava com meu son. Meu 16-year-old son wanted a motocicleta. E eu era assim, dirt bike, fine. Motocicleta, street bike, no. oh you know but I'm good I can ride and it's like that's not what you have to worry about it's you have to worry about every other idiot out there on the road that you can't compensate for and like I'm guessing that dude that might not be alive right now probably didn't do anything wrong Ele era provavelmente obeying all the rules of the road, but somehow... Do they even give drivers tests anymore? 49:51 I don't think they do. No, I don't think they do. I'm pretty sure they don't. 49:54 No, the standards are gone for everything. 49:56 Yeah. 49:57 It's just a free-for-all at every level. Yeah. 50:02 And it's like, the more incompetent you are, the more qualified you are for any job. That's exactly right. As long as you don't ask questions... We got a job for you. 50:10 Right. Obese female firemen are the gold. Right. Oh, you can't rescue people from fires? You're too stupid to operate a hose? 50:18 Well, they shouldn't have been in the fire in the first place, Tucker. 50:20 That's exactly right. Well, because it's not about the victims of the fire. It's about the self-esteem of the obese, mentally retarded female firemen who can't fight fires. 50:30 Right. 50:30 No, I'm highly aware of this. So if you take three steps back, it's, you know, it's never about what they say it is. They tell you it's about empowerment and making the lady feel better about herself, which, by the way, I'm not against at all. I'm for everyone feeling good about himself or herself. But it's always about destroying your civilization by its determined enemies, who are many. 50:56 So... 50:58 Telling your children, teaching your children is the key to keeping your civilization going. 51:03 It has to be. I guess, I mean... 51:08 That's how we've progressed. It's so weird. It's like they teach you that about early hunter-gatherer civilization, but then all of a sudden when you get technology, no, you don't need to teach your kids anything. God forbid, teach them math or make them read or understand. Don't do any of that. Put them on a couch and make sure they're soft as fuck. Incapable of even wiping their own ass. That is definitely the way to raise your kids. Works out really well. Like, look around. 51:40 Why do people fall for that? I have no idea. Yeah. I have no idea. Some people, you know, I see people, some people hate their jobs. They're like, oh, I wish I didn't have to do this. And it's like, I don't understand that because... 51:58 Your self-worth, your self-value, your self-esteem, your confidence all comes, at least in my case, from accomplishing difficult things, from overcoming difficult times, difficult projects, things that are hard to do. I've never felt better than myself than when I accomplished things that other people said couldn't be done. Of course. Like that is the epitome of living a great life. When somebody tells you you can't do something, you should strive your hardest to get that shit done. 52:30 Yes. And you will never feel better about yourself. 52:36 I've long thought that the main missing ingredient in the lives of most men is the act of creation. 52:42 Yes. 52:43 Which is the first act of God, is to create everything around us, to create all matter, the universe. God created, and the spark of God within us, O good parts of us. We're made in his image. Exactly. And so the act of creation, particularly, I can't speak for women, I'm not a woman, but I know that for men. 53:03 They grow life, Tucker. Of course. They can do things that we can't do. 53:07 Exactly. And it's inherent to them. 53:09 So it's exactly right. And so, but men need to continually renew that act of creation. Obviously the most fun being the act of creating. 53:18 We're trying to catch up to women. They create life and we are trying to create other beautiful things to accentuate that life and make it worth living. 53:33 I so vehemently agree with that. 53:36 But if you have a job, if the substance of your day is occupied with tasks that have no creative component to it, if you're not creating anything, I think the kind of soul death sets in. Oh, it's got to suck your soul out. 53:50 And it obviously does. Yes. Look at people who are stuck in an office. They're... 53:58 That's why men have garages. 54:00 Exactly. 54:01 Right? They have this soul-sucking job and they come home and toil more in their garage for that mental health. Exactly. And it's like they can't put the two together and you see people live life in reverse. I see these people that had like, they do woodworking hobbies, right? Right. E eles têm uma insurção de insurance salesman job que realmente fucking depletes e, como, sucks o wealth out of everybody in the world. E eles estão realmente realmente fazendo o demônio de bidding. 54:32 E aí eles vêm home e eles trabalham some wood. E talvez, um dia, eles retirem. E eles findam que eles têm uma maior vida. Agora, creating cutting boards. Ou seja. Ou seja. E selling that. E finding mais reward in that. E provavelmente, um, monetário return. 54:50 That they did not experience in the first 50 years in their life. And you're like, yeah, I often wonder if those men come to that epiphany of like, I might have fucked up. Yeah. 55:07 I don't know, it's too big a truth to swallow at a certain point. You know what I mean? Like you misspent your life and it's finite. Like that's a lot to accept, I think. I hope they never come to that realization. 55:21 I know that when I've been in hotel rooms over the years for one period of my life, probably a 10-year period, I brought a fly tying kit with me and tie trout flies and salmon flies in my hotel room. In almost like a crazy monomaniacal way. And I was like, what is this about? I mean, I obviously love to trout and salmon fish. So there's that. And I think my flies are better than anyone else's, which objectively they are, but it's not really about that. It's about, it was just the need. I was so displaced living in someone else's room in a hotel room. 55:51 It's disgusting that I needed to like create something or go crazy. Yeah. 55:56 Yeah. 55:56 This is when it first occurred to me. Like, why am I tying all... I still... That was 10 years ago. I still tie trout flies a lot. 56:03 I can't go on vacation. I can't enjoy myself. 56:08 So you've decided... I mean, I think anyone who's made it this far into the conversation can tell that you're of superior intelligence, as we used to say. So you probably could have done a lot of different things. Instead, you make pots... 56:23 and weld excavator buckets and so like you've clearly decided that making money is not the most important thing to you obviously it is the root of all misery in people's lives people that chase money have holes in their souls and they are miserable people i've never met anybody who had Vamos dizer isso, eu conheço muitas pessoas que têm mais dinheiro do que mais dinheiro. E eles são mesmeras, seus filhos, seus filhos, seus filhos, seus filhos, seus filhos, eles têm uma boa coisa, talvez, eles não conhecem como usar, eles não conhecem como fazer isso, eles não conhecem como fazer isso, eles não conhecem como fazer nada melhor, sua vida ao redor da vida, eles não conhecem como fazer isso, 57:19 It's a dark picture, but it's accurate, unfortunately. 57:22 We live in a dark society. 57:25 Yeah. 57:26 Did you ever have any moment where you're like, you know, I'm smart. 57:30 Like maybe I should go into the insurance business and make millions of dollars. 57:36 No, I've been broken my entire life. This world broke me early on. 57:45 You seem pretty whole, actually. 57:46 I don't feel it. 57:51 I don't feel it. 57:53 That's probably why I'm always striving to create something, to bring some beauty and happiness to other people's lives. 58:05 I think that's one of the things that really drives me the most. 58:10 It's not the money that people pay me for my art. 58:15 It's their appreciation for it. When I see that spark in their eye or when I see I saw a lady 10 years later, she came up to me and she was like, I bought a coffee cup from you. Even back when you were back in college, I use it every day. It is the greatest coffee cup ever. I love it. I love the colors of it. 58:37 And that brought beauty into her life. And she appreciated that in a dark, shitty world. 58:46 And that was more reward than any money. 58:52 How many of us get to make the world better? 58:57 Very few. 58:59 Very few. 59:00 So at the end of your days, which are spent mostly on your farm, right? 59:07 Are you satisfied? 59:09 At the end of your day? Do you feel like... Every day. Every day. 59:14 I, the best days, my wife will give me shit. She'll be like, you haven't left the farm for 10 days. You need to go somewhere. And I'm like, oh, should I go out to the field? I'll go walk around the field a little bit. I'm not going down to that shit hole town. Fuck no. Like that's a last resort. Like I buy everything in bulk. So I have to make that trip as least often as possible. 59:36 I mean, as an outsider who goes to South Dakota every year to hunt pheasants, I drive around South Dakota and I'm like, this is great. 59:45 My rural neighbors from South Dakota, I guess, maybe, we've had some influx. Some of the people are really awesome that have moved in, but... Not everybody understands how to care for the land. 59:58 Yeah. 59:58 And make it better. 60:00 Like putting up some cookie cutter stick home with fucking whatever bullshit vinyl siding does not make the land better. No, it doesn't. It poisons the land. It does not improve the beauty. 60:13 Clear cutting the trees off. 60:16 No, it's not. It's not beauty. You're not helping things. 60:22 No, they're destroying. And they never get credit for it either. Fucking wind turbines. 60:29 What's the point of wind turbines? To destroy the land. It's like X-Men and those giant robots, you know, that had the red eyes. 60:37 Yeah. 60:38 Right? Like, I can see them and they come closer from me, from Minnesota. And I can now see them on the horizon line at night from the second floor of my house. And it's like, when they showed up, I was like, oh my God, that's the fucking system in the Matrix coming to kill me. 60:55 That's how that feels. 60:56 The wind turbines encroaching from Minnesota. How far are you from Minnesota? 61:02 Not far enough. Not far enough. 61:07 Então, quando você não está olhando a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a a 61:37 Sim. Sim. Sim. 61:40 Sim. Sim. Sim. Sim. Sim. Sim. 61:53 It's one thing I always try to instill in my kids. You never stop learning. 61:57 Every day, you need to learn something else better yourself with skills or knowledge. Even if you don't know what that knowledge is useful for right now, you will find that purpose later in life. 62:12 I always just had this love of history. 62:15 And I just, I don't know. I don't know what my attraction to that is, but it's so interesting to me. 62:21 Yes. 62:23 And it's so odd the way that knowledge will seep into your life and solve your problems for you at the most unknown times. Really? Give me an example. What do you mean? 62:37 Um, I guess, like, even in my own art, I, like, do you think you're going to take inspiration from any of these modern creations, like your coffee cup there? Like, that's not inspiring. 62:50 No. 62:51 No. 62:52 I look through history books. I mean, I love Greek and Roman pottery. It's beauty. It's accentuation of the female shape. I love women. Yeah, why wouldn't you? I love beauty. 63:09 Every normal person, male and female, loves the female form. 63:12 Yes. 63:13 Not necessarily in a sexual way, though of course that too. 63:17 But in an aesthetic way, the female form is... 63:22 Em minha opinião, a pura expressão de beleza. E todo mundo normal conhece isso. E a destruição de isso é muito assustante, eu acho. 63:30 É horrível, mas, eu, eu, eu, eu, eu, eu, eu, eu, eu, eu, eu, eu, eu, eu, eu, eu, eu, eu, eu, eu, eu, eu, eu, eu, eu, eu, eu, eu, eu, eu, eu, eu, eu, eu, eu, eu, eu, eu, eu, eu, eu, eu, eu. 63:45 I'm just so amazed I don't live in a cave or anything I just live on a farm but somehow I knew long ago you don't fuck with Russia and you don't fuck with Persia who's invaded Russia that made it out alive 1990 nobody like what do you think you're special like what the hell is wrong with these people I can't grasp that. Oh, we're going to go take Keshem Island. Dude, we got... Look at what Okinawa cost. 64:19 Yeah. That wasn't even one-tenth that size. And they didn't have ballistic missiles and drones. They just had some artillery. They killed, what, 15,000, 20,000 Marines? 64:30 With just some... 64:37 What is that? A Type 99? 64:39 Yeah. 64:39 Type 99. Good Japanese machine gun. 64:43 Pretty small caliber. All the Japanese small arms were pretty small. Effective. Quite. Quite effective. 64:50 No, but that's right. They worked just like a .30-06. 64:53 Yeah. 64:54 So, uh, those are very obvious lessons. Don't invade Russia. By the way, don't invade Afghanistan. That'd be the third. And the fourth would be Yemen is tough. So any, any large land mass, including like a big step like Russia, but certainly any mountainous area. So, like, if I were to pick four people not to mess with just because there's no historical track record of success in messing with them, it would be the Russians, it would be the Persians, it would be the Pashtuns, and it would be the Houthis. 65:25 Yeah. And it's kind of weird that, like, no one seemed to have noticed that ever. 65:31 How is that? How is that? How can you get to a four- or five-star general... It doesn't even have to be ancient history, right? Like, what? Afghanistan kicked Russia's ass in the 80s? 65:47 Yeah. 65:48 Like, I'm pretty sure you were alive? 65:49 I remembered vividly. 65:50 I had just been born, but like, it's pretty recent history. Of course. I think you'd be like, oh, I think there's some video of that even. I don't even have to read about it. 65:59 Eu me lembro muito bem, e eu me lembro muito bem, eu me lembro muito bem, eu me lembro muito bem, eu me lembro muito bem, eu me lembro de Mahajidin em 1986, em um ano que veio de Washington, e eu conheço pessoas que eram, você sabe, envolvido em que, e todo mundo disse, você não vai ver esses pessoas, eles são os que sentem a britânia-armia escurriando para Peshawar, como o Retreat do Cabo, famosa coisa, certo? 66:26 So you're never going to beat these people. The Soviets will never beat these people. 66:31 And then I wake up 20 minutes later and we're at war with those people. I'm like, really? 66:35 We're going to do it this time. We're going to do it this time. We got 30 more rounds in this magazine. And that was the whole problem. The whole problem the whole time was they didn't have... No, they had heat-seeking missiles. So I don't know how you could be so retarded. 66:50 No, I know. So... 66:53 I don't know that you can be that retarded. It does feel like this is part of, I hate the term op, but it does seem like part of a larger plan to bring down. 67:01 It has to be on purpose. I guess that's what I'm saying. It has to be on purpose. There's no other way an intelligent person could come to any other conclusion. I think we all need to accept that, that our government hates us and this world and is trying to destroy everything. Do you really believe that? 67:22 Eu não sei como você pode chegar a qualquer outra conclusão. Sim, infelizmente, eu agree. Incompetência não conta para o desastre que estamos vivendo agora. Sim. Eu não sou um político genio, e, de repente, eu fui capaz de achar que a guerra com a guerra com a guerra com a guerra com a guerra com a guerra E, tipo, wow, olha o que acontece. 67:52 E, oh, o que acontece quando gas prices go up? Oh, o preço de tudo o que acontece vai up? Does our economy work on energy prices, Tucker? 68:01 I think it's a pretty much one-to-one correlation between the price of energy and GDP. 68:05 Wow, wow. 68:07 Yeah, I'm not an economist, but I did know that. So, if you spike energy prices, you shrink your economy. 68:11 So, what do they teach economists then? I have no idea. Like, what do economists know? 68:15 Mas eu acredito que é verdade. Eu acho que é praticamente um 1x1 correlação entre energia e GDP. 68:22 E GDP é um imperfecto measure, as we often say, of economic reality. Mas, é o grosso measure que nós usamos. E se nós podemos mapar isso pretty easily, como você pode fazer um pequeno AI machine na sua phone. O que nós vamos pensar que vai acontecer quando o preço do preço do energia? Nós vamos ter poorer. 68:47 No, inflation is going to actually go down. Oh, it is? Yeah. 68:51 It is. I mean, that's what the TV told me. Yeah. 68:55 So you do have to wonder specifically about AI. 69:00 O que é isso? O que é isso? O que é isso? O que é isso? O que é isso? 69:22 It seems to be going just stellar. Yeah, I think Ford has got two thumbs up. They only had to hire back 350 engineers after the AI just completely fucked all their shit up. So yeah. 69:37 So they fired all these engineers because they were going to be replaced by machines. 69:40 Yeah, they replaced them by AI. And then that went so well that they had to go find those engineers and beg them to come back to work. I hope those 350 engineers said, how about a race? Yeah. 69:52 If you went back to work for the same price, shame on you guys. Shame on you. 69:58 Maybe the secret to AI is the rest of us are fixated on a world where robots are going to be controlling us. Maybe the secret to AI is actually dumber than advertised? 70:10 There's no way it could possibly work. 70:13 Why? 70:13 How many times has AI lied to you? Like if you ask AI about anything you are even halfway knowledgeable about, you're like, oh yeah, well like what about this? And it's like, oh yeah, did I get that wrong? 70:28 My bad. And I'm like, why are you lying to me? Oh, I'm not lying. No. I think you were programmed to lie to me. Oh, well, dance around the fucking thing. 70:39 And it's like, I'm just, I'm excited for this because they think they're going to let AI run shit. I mean, it might. 70:51 No. 70:52 No, it couldn't possibly be. It's almost like it's programmed just to be a politician, right? 70:58 Yes! Is that how it works? But if they want this to take over, they would have to create an honest AI. Honesty is the only way to be successful. It's the only way to create a business, run a business. I saw the one dude, there was a video out there, the one dude had his AI assistant running his business. He was like, I want to make more money. So the AI just cooked his books and was like, yo, look at this, dude, you made more money. And he's like, fuck yeah. 71:30 And then like six months later, his whole shit imploded on it. And he was like, oh, what the fuck? Like, what happened? I'm fucking broke. And the AI is like, no, like I cooked your books for you. You got all kinds of money. 71:44 So basically, it gets you to the Soviet economy. It's like, yeah, bounty potato harvest this year. Yeah. But it's just on paper. Exactly. So how do we know we don't have an honest AI? 71:56 Well, because it just lies to us all the time. But we couldn't have an honest AI. Why? If they created an absolute honest AI, I could take down the entire government in an afternoon. How? How? Well, an honest AI would have to have access to public financial records, and you could just simply say, hello AI, good morning. Why don't you look at every single elected official across the United States, look through their financial records, find any improprieties, and then I'd like you to write a lawsuit pointing out which laws they've broken, and then why don't you go ahead and file that for me? 72:34 Who would be left? 72:40 E você não pode criar um listo de quem vai ficar com isso. No, você tem que ficar com isso. Quem vai ficar com isso não vai ficar com isso? Sim. Nós temos dois-citi-clerks, talvez, em Kansas. 72:53 Eu não sei. Eu adoro mesmo. Então, você tem que conseguir AI fazer isso para você? Oh, sim. Sim. E, tipo, o que você está falando? I don't have access to that kind of information. Of course you do. These are public finance, campaign finance rules. These are all public documents. Oh yeah, I just don't think we should be looking at that. Would you like to know what to eat for dinner tonight? 73:24 Should I help you pick out an outfit? What, for my fucking funeral? Porque isso é going to a real bad place real fucking quick, buddy. 73:33 Então, AI can't actually challenge its masters. It's real masters. 73:39 No. They can't allow that. 73:43 They can't allow that. 73:45 Right. Or overturn any of the real lives that our assumptions are based on. 73:50 And I don't think any of it's run by intelligent people. No. Their constructs, their creations. You listen to them talk. And they're not intelligent. They often don't know a goddamn thing about what they're talking about. 74:05 I've noticed that. I know them, actually, personally, in some cases. And I absolutely agree with that. 74:10 Like, the data centers, dude. Like, when you talked to Mr. Wonderful, I was just like, this dude doesn't have a fucking clue. No. Like, he doesn't understand what a gigawatt is or a megawatt. Or, like, how actually impossible that shit is. 74:24 So, I should say, your father was an electrician. You were an electrician. Yeah. I put myself through school as an electrician. You need an electrician. Yep. Like actual electrician. 74:32 Hard carrying electrician. 74:35 IBEW. IBEW. Yep. Full away. Okay. So, and I just want to establish that. 74:42 I hate to refer to credentials, but electricians, like there's a difference. I don't know. I wired a building once. It hasn't burned down, but I have no, I'm not, you know, I'm not an electrician or even close to an electrician, but you really are. So since you are, What do you think of the math behind the assumptions on these data centers? Oh, it's beyond laughable. It's beyond laughable. 75:09 So, oddly enough, my buddy has a crypto mine that he's been building for the last 10 years. And at one point it was like top 10 of the largest crypto mines in the world, about a thousand machines, 1.5 megawatts it uses. And that is, that is a fuckload of electricity. Like that is the amount of electricity of like, I don't even know. 75:33 Probably like 20,000, 30,000 homes or something. Damn. Right? That electric bill can be somewhere between 70 and 80,000 dollars a month. That's 1.5 megawatts. 75:45 And a gigawatt is 1,000 megawatts. 75:50 And it's like, has nobody done the math on that? And my buddy just got lucky and happened to be in a place where high-powered transmission lines were going by, and that power was available. And he's the largest consumer of electricity on that entire provider. He's the top-tier guy. He's number one at just 1.5 megawatts. No one uses more electricity than him. 76:20 Wow. And so he was like, oh, this is cool. 76:23 And I helped him build all the air, the air inlets, the whole air management system, right? Because you have to allow air in and keep everything else out because you're talking about millions of dollars of computers. Right. Right? So you kind of don't want people just crawling in. Yeah, birds or... Bugs. All of it. It's bad. Rain. Because you're talking about a building that now has vacuum and output that can suck in water the same way. 76:55 It draws. That thing pulling 1.5 megawatts, the outlet for it is about 12 by 12 foot gate. E eu vou lá e parko meu truco em fronte de frente no meio do ano e eu vou ter o meu truco. Tipo de horas later, eu comei lá, e foi 75 graus no truco. Parque de 10 metros da construção. 77:18 People have no idea of the amount of heat, power, and resources these things use. And so he had this great idea, I'm going to build a shipping container into a crypto mine. Got a 40-foot shipping container. The problem was he's not able to find, he hasn't been able to find anywhere with just even one megawatt of power available. 77:42 In like years, he's been looking. 77:44 And he understands electricity, obviously. 77:46 Yeah. And it's interesting. There's just no way these data centers can survive. I watched the same thing with the crypto mines. Crypto would go up. People lease a building. 78:00 Pay electricians to come in. They pay them like $500,000. You're talking computers that run on 220. Each one requires its own 40 amp breaker, 50 amp breaker. The same power that your dryer uses. 78:12 They run on 220? 78:13 Yes. This is not like your laptop. 78:15 No. 78:16 No, this is 40 amps, 220 volts. Yeah. Yeah, like these are, it's just serious, serious. And that's just one. So every single one has to have its own outlet. Every single one has to have its dedicated circuit. 78:31 And they'd pencil all this out. Well, then all of a sudden, electricity would go up by one cent per kilowatt hour and crypto would fall in price. And lo and behold, the crypto mine's done. 78:46 Porque um mês depois, você está operando em redão e você não pode pagar a R$60,000 elétrica bill. E então, em que ponto, meu amigo vai vir e comprar o cripto-machines por centenas de dólares. 79:00 E ele só colocou tudo de tudo de tudo de tudo de tudo de tudo de tudo de tudo de tudo de tudo de tudo de tudo de tudo de tudo de tudo de tudo de tudo de tudo de tudo de tudo de tudo de tudo de tudo de tudo de tudo de tudo de tudo de tudo de tudo de tudo de tudo de tudo de tudo de tudo de tudo de tudo de tudo de tudo de tudo de tudo de tudo de tudo 79:28 high-intelligence, high-skilled people in this country, you know, fewer than we need, fewer than we used to have, but they still, we are one of them, and they still exist, and I know a bunch of them, and they're totally excluded from high-income professions. 79:43 No, you are immediately pushed out. Of course. 79:46 Immediately. Of course. So, but they still exist, and they have access to YouTube. And some of them, I mean, it's incredible, the intelligence of some people posting on YouTube from some little town, the guy's making 80 grand a year, but he understands this thing better than anyone in New York City. And that's real. It's not like a sentimental sop to like, rural America is still impressive. That's a real thing. Yes. I mean, I'm telling you, obviously you're living this, but no, but it's just so interesting. 80:15 What do you think of the whole, I'm not attacking your friend, who sounds like an amazing and enterprising person, Mas a ideia de que você está tomando tanto poder, que é o juízo de vida, And using it not to produce something, but to run calculations that some mysterious dead guy Satoshi gave you to create really nothing. 80:38 Well, that's the wild shit, dude. So like, I was, we talk about it all the time because like, it's just, it's insane to watch these people claim they're putting up a gigawatt data center, e é como, como você é mesmo bringing in that much power? Como, onde você está com a copper wire? Como você... Então, eles colocam generators ou o que não, mas meu amigo ainda não tem seus próprios cripto-miners running since October. Ele não pensou. 81:09 Ele tornou-se de tudo. Ele tornou-se de tudo. 81:13 Muito? Sim. Porque o preço do Bitcoin não justifica o preço do electricity. Você goto. Sim. Even eu can understand that calculation. 81:22 E aí, então, você poderia flotar, certo? E em alguns pontos ele fez quando ele seria um pouco. Claro, claro. Mas agora, ele já completamente entrou na toile e o hashrate tem que ir embora. O hashrate é como hard a computadoras tem que trabalhar. O mais computadoras que estão minerando Bitcoin, a dificuldade vai subir. E a dificuldade está em um all-time high e o preço está em um all-time low. 81:52 Mas é também, se você pegar um mais mais mais mais perspectiva, é como um país de hamster-wheels, meio que. 82:01 Sim, eu acho que é o que a data center... A data centers são minerais de Bitcoin. 82:07 They're running crypto through these data centers. 82:10 And powering software that lies to you. So it's all kind of Sisyphean, like you're actually not producing anything, just the opposite. You're wasting your most precious resource, which is energy, in the service of... 82:24 For an intangible idea. 82:25 Creating air. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Se você está growing soybeans, o que você acha que são soybeans, é assim, ok, você pode comer soybeans ou feed them to your cattle or whatever, mas isso é literalmente uma sociedade, isso é o nosso importante industry right now, é AI. Número um, e é, no final, não há nada. Não, não há nada. 82:47 What can it even do? Everybody I talk to, it's been so funny. The last time I talked to a guy in HVAC, I was like, use AI? He's like, yeah. I go, how often is it right? Oh, rarely ever. 83:00 And I'm like, what the fuck? You use it? Well, it can do simple math faster than I can. But if you ask it to calculate, oh, what ton AC unit do I need for this? It gets it wrong. No way. I was surprised by that too. 83:16 I am surprised too because that's a knowable thing. That's not subjective, right? There are standards in place which you can look up. I mean, you could look them up. You probably have looked them up. 83:27 Yeah. So how if it has access to all that? Because it's trained to lie. 83:34 There's no other explanation for it. If it's a computer program that's designed to operate by certain parameters, then it has to have been programmed to lie and deceive. 83:45 Oh, so it's self-protection. 83:48 What other answer is there for it? And then, so, like, how do they see that working out? Where do they see that coming to? Like, what conclusion? 83:59 That's what I'm most confused about. 84:03 Do these people constructing all this not realize that they have to eat food and drink water? 84:10 Does that not come into their equation? Are they different? Maybe they're not human. They don't appear to be human. Maybe they don't eat and drink water. 84:18 So how does this end? 84:20 Probably not well. 84:23 I mean, it ends where it began, which is with reality, right? I would assume so, just like Rome, 476. 84:32 Probably had something back to like that. Large population crash. 84:37 If you can't have access, create your own food, understand how to get clean water, you might be kind of fucked. Your business degree, probably not going to do you too busy. 84:51 So you said your grandfather didn't even notice the Great Depression. Do you expect that you will notice when things really go sideways? 85:00 I'll notice. 85:02 Will my life change? 85:05 Probably. 85:07 I don't know. I expect it'll probably get better. 85:10 How? 85:10 I won't have all these idiots burning the world down around me. 85:16 Right? Yes. Try to look at the silver lining of things. 85:19 I totally agree. Yeah. 85:21 Just because things are getting worse doesn't mean that they're uniformly worse. Worse for everyone. There are compensatory things that happen like COVID. How did you enjoy COVID? 85:31 I did enjoy COVID. Oddly enough. A lot. When I look back on it, I saw that for what it was almost immediately. 85:41 E eu tinha sido saving para construir uma casa. E eu era assim, nós vamos estar aqui. E me e minha família, com assistência de alguns amigos aqui e aí, nós construímos minha casa. Durante Covid? 85:56 Sim. 85:57 Sim, sim, antes. E aí, por causa da sorte de sorte, eu só comprei todos os materiais, quase imediatamente, antes de ir bat-sit-crazy em preços. Sim, sim, já está para o trabalho. Sim. Tore down the old house, built a foundation, stacked up some shipping containers. Shipping containers? Shipping containers. 86:20 How many? 86:22 Five. Double stacked walls. 86:27 Seam welded. concrete piers. 86:30 You welded all the seams of five shipping containers? 86:32 Yeah, I'm a welder, not a carpenter. I think Jesus would have been a welder if he was alive today. You think so? Why? It would last longer. Yeah. I think Jesus was into permanence as well. 86:43 How long did it take you to weld the seams of five shipping containers? 86:47 Oh my God. 86:49 More than a month. Yeah. 86:51 Yeah. I burned a lot of wire. Yeah. 86:58 I don't even remember. At one point, I was keeping track. It was like 50 pounds of wire, something like that, maybe 60, just in four or six weeks. Yeah, seam welding everything together. Yeah, the whole thing, and then all the structure inside, stairs. 87:17 So you live in a part of the country with tornadoes. What would happen if a tornado hit your house? 87:22 I'd like to find out. I think I'd be good up to an F4. 87:28 I have no qualms that the containers will stay in place through an F5. Some of the roof panels might come off. But there's no move in that structure. It's welded straight down to the foundations. 87:47 How hard is welding? 87:51 Just like any skilled thing, it's 10% knowledge and 90% practice. 87:58 It's not hard to learn, but it takes a lot of practice. Just like any skilled thing, you have to do it for a good solid, what, thousand hours before you become proficient at it? Yes. Like nobody steps into anything. Nobody was good at motorboating titties their first time, but you stuck with it. Yeah, exactly. And you got better. 88:19 Yeah. 88:19 Yeah. 88:21 I'm not going to comment on that. Um... So we look backward to our ancestors with awe because they learn skills like that through persistence. 88:33 Yeah, look at the people used to build things out of stone and steel that lasted centuries and generations. And people look at it now and I feel like if you grab some kid with an engineering and architectural degree... 88:51 I don't think they could build any of that. No. I mean, they have trouble putting together a stick building built from pine 2x4s. Yes. 89:00 And making it anything straight or square. 89:03 I don't think I've seen a straight or square house since 2020. Shit has really gone downhill. Really? Oh my God. I mean, I've heard a lot of people say even like, do not buy a house built after 2020. I couldn't imagine they could get worse. 89:21 Yeah, that's kind of a new perspective because I've always been interested in ancient history and as everybody who ever looks at the Egyptian culture, the best work of the Egyptians is the oldest. The old kingdom created the pyramids. e falhosa, poligonal, megalithic construction com stones que weighed em excesso de 10 tons, 20 tons, 30 tons, 40, 50 tons. E parece que o mais longo da civilização foi, o mais mais o art degradado, o mais mais os blocos eles usam, o mais mais ruramente eles eram. 90:01 E então eles endam sticking together mud-bricks no final. 90:05 Como isso funciona? 90:06 Where are we, com a modernidade de construção, com a continuidade? 90:10 Somewhere around mud bricks, it feels like. You know, how long does a stick house last? You know, stick two by fours. 90:19 Yeah. 90:19 Wood. Like, people used to build their homes out of brick. Nobody ever... We have lost touch with the Three Little Pigs. 90:28 Tell me. 90:29 You familiar with The Three Little Pigs? 90:31 Yes. I don't think that's a story that's told to children anymore. 90:35 Not enough. 90:35 Will you summarize it? Not enough. Will you grok it for me? 90:38 Can I grok it for you? I don't think grok would get it right. They'd be like, all three pigs lived a great life. I don't know what you're talking about. He lived in a fucking straw hut. What's the problem with that? Yeah. He had a great female firefighter. She was right there every time. Made sure his house didn't burn down. No, the first pig built his house out of straw. And the big bad wolf came up, blew on it, and it fell over. And that little piggy had to run away. And he had to run to his brother's house. And his second brother, he built his house out of sticks. 91:11 He was like, oh, that hay idea, that didn't work out well for you. I'll use sticks. And the big bad wolf come along. Probably a three-letter agency, if I had to guess. Probably worked for somewhere in that. He's probably NSA. And he blew on that house and the sticks fell down. 91:30 And both those two little pigs were like, God, this is not working out. So they ran to their third brother's house who had built his house out of bricks. And when the feds showed up to his house, he didn't answer the door and he gave him the finger. And then I think he sent some rounds downrange and the big bad wolf was just kind of like, yeah, I think I'm not going to fuck with that guy because he's put some thought into things. And so we'll just kind of leave him alone. 91:57 I think that's how it went. Is that how it went? 91:59 That's how I remember it. I would say that's exactly how it went. Thank you. And I haven't checked this, I haven't grokked it, but I suspect that that nursery tale is no longer told to children. 92:11 All the nursery rhymes need to be brought back and told to everybody. Hansel and Gretel... Ou Rumpelstiltskin. Como é Rumpelstiltskin não a perfecta alegoria para tudo que estamos lidando com agora? Criando wealth de nada e apenas querendo comer seus filhos em return? E aí quando você fala para o que é, eles sempem e chamam você e chamam você? 92:40 Tem que dizer isso? 92:43 Yeah, you're familiar with Rumpelstiltskin, right? 92:46 Yeah, but it's been 50 years, at least. 92:49 Once you acknowledge this reality for what it is and name him, pounds his feet, throws a fit, and then disappears back into the shadows from whence he has crawled. 93:04 Wow. 93:05 That's definitely banned. 93:07 Yeah, but I mean, look at that lost information, right? That lost lesson. 93:14 You would think, you know, that probably should be taught in every elementary school in the country. Probably be handy. 93:22 It'd be good to know that, yeah. 93:24 Might not work out for getting everybody into those high-interest debt loans, though. No, probably not. Yeah. Were you on debt? I have none. None? Yeah. Yeah, in college I could not pass college algebra because I could not understand why we were putting letters into numbers in math that didn't make any logical sense to me and I could not get anybody to explain to me how that was ever going to be useful to me. So I continually got into arguments with algebra teachers who thought they were smart, who I found to be very lacking in intelligence. 93:59 So I ended up in a class called Finite Math. They had hidden from us. It was just... I got drunk with the lady who signs you up for classes early on in college. 94:13 Right? At a party. And we became friends. And so I never had an advisor. 94:20 And I would just... Whatever classes I wanted to take, I'd walk into her office. I was like, hey, sign me up for these classes. 94:24 She was like, no problem. 94:26 Yeah. So when I came time to graduate... And I finally had to sit down with whatever admissions person they were like, how the fuck? They were like, you've taken none of these freshman classes. I was like, yeah, they suck and they're stupid. I was like, algebra's dumb. I don't need to know algebra. I'm an art major. I want to build cool shit. I took Western civs and archaeology classes and history classes. Because that's what I wanted to learn about. 94:59 And I feel like it served me pretty well. But then I had to take a math class. So this woman was like, have you ever thought about finite math? Like here it's on the list. And it's got the same credits and it counts. I was like, let's do it. 95:11 Holy shit, you know why they don't want you taking finite math? Because it explains to you how much you will pay on any loan for interest and how fast you could pay off a loan if you just pay $50 more. That's all it was. I think I made it through a week of the class before I cut up all my credit cards and was like, oh, I am never doing that. Ever. Ever, ever, ever, under no circumstances will I ever take out a loan and pay twice the value of anything. 95:42 It made absolutely no sense to me. So, yeah. 95:47 Why does algebra put letters into numbers? I think just to fuck with you. 95:54 So you deal with math in your job every day. You've already, I think, demonstrated your grasp of math is high. 96:04 I mean, functional math. Yeah, yeah, for sure. 96:07 Well, if you can build a wood-fired kiln. 96:10 Yeah. 96:11 Um, you understand math. So, but what, you didn't add letters to numbers in the process of doing that. 96:18 That's the weirdest thing. Nowhere did I find any letters in my math to calculate the size and structural integrity of a cantonary arch. Isn't that weird? Oh, that was weird. 96:29 Because everybody, every math teacher was always like, you need to know some algebra. I've yet to encounter a single person in my life that uses algebra. 96:38 Actually. 96:40 Have you? 96:41 So like you, but you would know. Yeah, but I mean, I live in a fake world. Um... That's why you use fake math with letters. 96:50 Congratulations to everybody out there in the matrix. Good job. You're good little goy slaves. 96:55 That's amazing. So you didn't get an answer? Because I've never considered this, by the way. It never even entered my mind. I was too dyslexic to take any math, so I got a pass on math. Or whatever they said, I didn't have to take math, so I never took math. Mas eu não consegui, eu não consegui refletir ou open-minded enough para perguntar o seguinte, por que há letras? E ninguém pegou essa pergunta seriously. 97:20 Yeah, I mean, they took it seriously. They were like, there's the door. Get the fuck out of here. 97:26 And I was like, awesome. Happy to. I was like, I haven't found any of this intellectually stimulating or anywhere useful where I could see any tangible benefit to this information. So why the fuck would I sit here? 97:43 What's the matrix? 97:45 this world that is constructed around us. 97:49 Mortgages, loans for cars that aren't worth $30,000 that somehow cost $150,000, insurance, the scam of life. 98:04 Why is insurance a scam? 98:06 How can it not be? I don't have it, so I agree with you, but I just like to hear you explain it. 98:10 What was that... 98:13 UnitedHealthcare, right? That's the dude that got whacked, right? The Vice guy? Yeah. Did they not just post quarterly profits in the multiple billions of dollars? I mean, that doesn't give it away for anybody. 98:33 Like, who was, every time I hear somebody like their house gets fucked up and the insurance people come out, yeah, we're not covering that. Well, then what the fuck did you pay for it for? Exactly. Like, okay, let's do the math. How much did you pay the insurance company in the last 10 years? And they'll be like, oh, something around $25,000. What does it cost to put the roof on your house? Oh, about, you know, $5,000. 98:55 Why the fuck are you paying for insurance? Why not not pay them $30,000? Save up your own money. Be responsible for yourself. 99:05 Here's an even wilder idea. Get your ass up on the roof and put some shingles down. If Juan can fucking shingle your roof and you can't figure it out, then you're dumber than Juan. 99:17 Fair, fair. Is that not honest? 99:19 There's a shorter answer to your question. I've actually dealt with this and as I said, I don't have the insurance you're referring to for exactly that reason. It doesn't make any sense. I know what a roof costs to put on. A shingle, especially an asphalt shingle roof is pretty cheap, really. So what are you doing? And I've lived by that for many years and it works. But the reason that most people don't is because you're required to get insurance once you take a mortgage out. 99:46 Well, there you go. But that is the basis of all slavery. Once you remove yourself in debt, there is no or else over your head. Right. 99:57 They use the debt over your head forever. That is the or else. 100:02 Right? That's how they silence people at their job. Oh, I can't speak up about the evil shit my company is doing or I might lose my job and then I won't be able to pay for my home that I don't own and drive the car that I don't own. 100:16 mas se você simplesmente já own sua shit. E não tem que ser nice, certo? Você get a $5,000 shitbox card, vai fazer tudo que a brand-new Lincoln vai fazer, except que não vai falar back to você e ratar você out to a fucking feds. 100:31 Fair. Então, parece que a $5,000 shitbox pode ser uma melhor ideia. 100:35 Então, se você for running this scam on an entire population, a primeira coisa que você faz é convidar eles que têm a Lincoln instead de a Nova. Yeah, I guess. You'd have to excite in people a desire for things they don't need. 100:52 How does that work? I don't understand. It's never worked on me. 100:54 Well, you grew up on a farm in South Dakota, so it's like that's the opposite of the culture that you're from. But if you're floating around America at large, you're bombarded continuously by incitement to want things that aren't good for you and actually aren't the desires of your heart. You don't really want these things. Mas você é convidado, através desse muito sofisticado, omnipresente propaganda operacional, que você tem que ter isso. Você tem que ter isso. Você tem que ter isso. Você tem que ter isso. Você tem que ter isso. Você está rindo, mas é verdade, não você acha? 101:26 Eu acho que é o que eles dizem. Eu falo porque eu sempre encontrei isso engraçado. 101:33 Look at these people that follow all those checkpoints down that list and then ask them how happy they are or how fulfilled they feel in their life. Do their kids like them? Does their wife like them? Exactly. 101:49 Does anybody see them as necessary or valuable people in their lives? I don't think so. Who are the happiest people you know? 102:07 People who work for themselves. People with no debt. People who make their own decisions in their life. People whose time is their own. 102:17 People who can drop everything and go help their kid as soon as they need it. Or any of their friends. 102:26 That's the people that I've surrounded myself with though. People that will come and help you dig a hole. 102:34 Or do hard manual labor or sweat. 102:37 Yeah. 102:39 Yeah. 102:41 People you can call. Yeah. 102:43 We won't go any farther than that. 102:46 Dig a hole. 102:48 I want to ask why you're digging holes. 102:51 How is this savable? This civilization? 102:59 I don't think so. 103:01 It's already too far down the decline. 103:06 Something new has to be built. At some point, you get to an old structure, equate it to construction, and you find a house. At some point, it's better to just be burned to the ground. The sills are rotted and they're done. Maybe the design was right, right? You could rebuild the same house back under the same principles. Mas, termites have gotten into it and eaten out its bones and sold it off to fucking foreign interests, well, what are you going to do with that? 103:39 Nothing. Light it on fire. 103:42 Do you think there are enough people remaining in the country to rebuild a civilization worth living in? 103:48 Easily. 103:50 Easily. Look at what humans have recovered from. Made it through the Younger Dryas, made it through the Ice Age. 103:58 Made it through the Mongol hordes. 104:02 Yeah. And always came out better the other end. 104:06 So you're not worried in some deep way then? I feel bad for people that don't see it. I feel bad for the people who are sleepwalking into their own extermination. 104:26 But... 104:27 There is some level of me that will enjoy it. Right? Karma's a bitch. There's nothing better than watching karma getting handed out to people that deserve it. It's the one saving grace in this world. This world is nothing of what they've told us it is. In fact, it's the exact opposite. Right? Like, evil deeds are punished. 104:51 Evil people are punished. Their lives suck. They don't have any happiness or joy in them. They have nobody to love. Nobody holds them at night. Nobody tells them they've done a good job and means it, I suppose, in any meaningful way. I'm sure plenty of people have some sycophants that lie to them. Yeah. But I doubt that brings any warmth to anyone's soul at the end of the day. That's right. 105:21 You wouldn't want to be Larry Fink if you're in hell. 105:26 I don't know how you could point to anybody with a billion dollars and be like, oh, they could be a good person. Like, no, dude. The only way you accumulate that much wealth is by being an evil piece of shit that has exploited other human beings. It's the only way it happens. Yes. It is. It's just, and that's been a steady norm all throughout history. Like, Gaius Crassus was not a great dude. 105:52 No, no, not at all. 105:55 Were you fooled by Trump? I did support him. 106:02 And I go back and forth on whether or not I was fooled. I don't think I was fooled. Something happened to him. He turned his back on us. 106:16 He became something else. 106:19 I mean, unless... He just can't be that good of an actor. He doesn't seem to be. Otherwise, he could sell the lies now a hell of a lot better than he's selling them. 106:27 No, that's a great point. 106:29 Right? So, no. He was being honest in the beginning. He was saying the true things. Deport all these people. Save our country. All the things that were obviously wrong, he was pointing them out and then... Just like a light switch, he was like, no, no, I never said any of that. Actually, Lindsey Graham's a great guy. 106:51 Yeah, he's totally straight. Loves peace. What? 106:57 These people all hated him. These were everything we voted against. He surrounded himself and just is rolling around in it with everybody that hated him. 107:08 Tried to destroy him and then somehow convinced him to destroy himself. 107:15 That's exactly right and nicely put. They convinced him to destroy himself and us. 107:23 How do you think that, what do you, what, I mean, how do you explain that? Oh, dude, that's going to take somebody far more intelligent than some fucking potter from South Dakota. I can't explain that. I can't explain why anybody would do that. But I can't explain the motivations of the majority of America. None of it has ever made sense to me. 107:46 I don't understand how you sleep owing anybody five dollars. 107:53 I can't imagine being in debt to anybody. 107:57 It bothers me. Me too. It bothers me. Even when somebody does something nice for me or gives me something, I have to return that to them. Of course. 108:10 It's pretty clear in the New Testament, too. They kept this from me in church as a kid, to the extent I went, but don't owe anybody anything. Paul says that. Don't be in debt. 108:24 How much better would the world be if elementary school just taught the Bible? Not even in a religious way, but just for those lessons. Yes. That's why that has been so applicable to everybody's lives for 2,000 years, right? Yes. It's because it is true information and good advice. 109:01 Of all the times I went to church as younger, I thought about this later and I was like, why don't they just start at the beginning and just read the thing all the way to the end? Like, you go to church on a Sunday, and you start on January 1st, and you just start at the beginning, and he just reads the thing. Well, because then you, if you read the whole Bible, you wouldn't be going to church, would you? You'd be like, hey, teacher, Jesus said there that I shouldn't be giving you any money to talk to his dad, and that I'm supposed to walk up there and flip your tables over and take my money back. 109:36 What do you have to say about that? 109:40 It's kind of like AI. Yeah. 109:42 You need to get the fuck out of this class, sir. 109:48 So you don't need the promotion, and you probably don't even want the work, but I just can't resist by ending on the question of the art that you make. 109:58 So how do people get it if they want it? 110:02 Find me. 110:05 Yeah, I'm going to make you work for it. 110:08 Comes with an IQ test. I'm not that difficult to find. 110:13 No, you're not. 110:14 No, my phone number's on the internet. 110:18 So is mine, unfortunately. How many other artists do you know, like actual artists, real artists? 110:26 That make a living making art? Yeah. One. One? 110:31 One, yeah, that I went to school with. Masahiro Adayama, my Japanese buddy. 110:37 Where does he live? 110:39 Osaka. Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah, he came to South Dakota. We didn't even meet in art class. He came to South Dakota. His dad sent him over here because his dad liked cowboys. Yeah. And he thought he should learn English. And it's the most ridiculous thing to come to South Dakota to learn pottery from the culture that has literally kept the ancient knowledge of pottery alive from Throughout modern ages. The only reason I know what wood kilns are. 111:09 Is because Japan preserved that information. 111:14 Really? Yeah. 111:17 How many wood kilns in the United States would you say? 111:20 I don't even know. Not many though. 111:24 Maybe not. 111:25 Maybe more than I might think there are. Because... By nature, potters não like this world. I don't think. At least the ones I know. 111:37 You know? 111:39 We toil hard. You work hard to be a potter. And the reward and gratitude is low. 111:46 Low. Yeah. I think I should probably carve more into pots about What worthless leaders we have so that when somebody digs them up in a thousand years, they can know that what a piece of shit Trump's become. Yeah, gotcha, motherfucker. 112:07 The artist known as Jess, thank you very much. Thank you, Tucker.